Posts by Wake Me Up Before You Jo-Ho

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Kids in my kingdom hall

by Akid48 in

i think my last post i said i went to a new congregation,i'm going to just talk about some of the shit i have seen in my congregation.. there was a kid trying to talk to a adult next to him i think it was his dad,the kid just started taping him because he wanted to tell him something and the dad gets mad then boom the kid gets elbowed.i look around to see if anyone saw him do that to his kid and nope or they didn't want to say anything about it and just like wtf.. in my old congregation,the younger kids would do random stuff in the middle of the meeting to not get board.

when the mom or dad got mad i would see then get dragged to the back of the kingdom hall and hear them start crying.when i was still mentally in i just didnt think about it at all when it would happen but when i woke up im just like thats fucked up..

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Taste my pain, @stuckinarut2. The man is a hardass. At 19 when he was still delivering blows to my face, my mother had to negotiate with him to find new ways to discipline me since I was an adult. And that came after much pleading and appealing to her. For Geoffrey Jackson to flat out lie about corporal punishment within the organization was just another slap in the face.

Thanks, @john.prestor. I appreciate that. I know it's ridiculous to vicariously punish other children through me - but hey, "shame and domination" is the name of the game.

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Re: the woman parking attendants and real life

by carla in

with much amusement i read the thread on women parking lot attendants and it got me to thinking about life at home for the average jw.. i believe i am correct in thinking that anything to do with jw-ism requires a penis, except all the leg work (fs & pioneers).

meaning the mic's, talks, etc... but yet the same guy who thinks his wife (or any other woman) is not bright enough to run the sound system for example doesn't mind his wife hauling hay, digging in the yard, managing the checkbook and other various physical jobs as well as jobs that do in fact require a brain larger than that of a gnat?.

let's say a guy is a bit technologically challenged but he can manage the sound system at the kh ok. i imagine he feels proud that he is getting to do this great privilege?

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Oops, sorry brother @stuckinarut2. I've just reached for the nearest used serviette and plopped it on my head now. I hope Jehovah can find humility in this as the barbecue sauce trickles down my forehead.

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Anyone pissed at their parents for raising you in the cult?

by blownaway in

my mother was not the most emotionally stable person.

she was a follower and instilled in me the idea we were better than those worldly people.

its hard to go to school as a child and you can not be friends outside of school, you can not celebrate any holidays, and you are told all these people are going to die.

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@blownaway Guns blazing. A year later, that barrel is still smoking because I got another email from my parents just this morning telling me how much they want to see my son and I and that we can leave the past in the past.

*drag and delete*

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Pioneers, Prayers and Pills

by Wake Me Up Before You Jo-Ho in

looking back on my two decades as a jehovah’s witness, i’ve come to realize how the constant theme of endurance is playing a detrimental role on the individual's psyche.. jehovah’s witnesses have become far too good at keeping going.

they’re experts at surrendering to the demands of the watchtower, living up to what’s expected of them, and getting on with the priorities that those in power have defined and imposed upon them.

they keep showing up, presenting themselves a dutiful pioneer or ministerial servant.

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@Stuck in the middle37 You're so welcome! I'm glad it resonated with you. Really appreciate your input :).

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Re: the woman parking attendants and real life

by carla in

with much amusement i read the thread on women parking lot attendants and it got me to thinking about life at home for the average jw.. i believe i am correct in thinking that anything to do with jw-ism requires a penis, except all the leg work (fs & pioneers).

meaning the mic's, talks, etc... but yet the same guy who thinks his wife (or any other woman) is not bright enough to run the sound system for example doesn't mind his wife hauling hay, digging in the yard, managing the checkbook and other various physical jobs as well as jobs that do in fact require a brain larger than that of a gnat?.

let's say a guy is a bit technologically challenged but he can manage the sound system at the kh ok. i imagine he feels proud that he is getting to do this great privilege?

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@Wild_Thing: "So, the PO's wife went to garage sales and bought a bought of silky scarves to keep at the KH."

But what about demons?!

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Human Evolutionary Process In 3 Minutes

by pale.emperor in

saw this great video today showing the evolutionary process of humans in 3 minutes.

the fossil record shows that 400 million years ago our ancestors were a type of fish.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsszn4biwzg.

also, check out the below chart.

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Anyone else hear the song Ever Loyal from the song book?!

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Happy Birthday smiddy3

by smiddy3 in

jw
friends

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What did you do for your birthday, Smid?!

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Anyone pissed at their parents for raising you in the cult?

by blownaway in

my mother was not the most emotionally stable person.

she was a follower and instilled in me the idea we were better than those worldly people.

its hard to go to school as a child and you can not be friends outside of school, you can not celebrate any holidays, and you are told all these people are going to die.

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@blownaway "Pissed" is an understatement.

Excerpt from a letter I sent to my parents a year ago:

"You raised me in a cult, and it was one of the worst things you and mum could have done for me. For her to then say "I feel sorry for this infant," tonight (referring to WHAM! Jr) is another slap in my face. My son absolutely DESERVES to see my open defiance to such injustice, to this thought-control you and my mother seem to seek refuge in. My silence on the matter would only be reinforcing my acceptance of it. Mum may feel such unwarranted pity for my son, but I can assure you that I will be the kind of parent who raises a child who never has to question my integrity, honesty or love for him the way I question yours. Mark my words."

Full context here: https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/4717375272255488/im-new?page=21

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Nothing in life is stable as a Jehovah's Witness...

by silentbuddha in

at least in hindsight it would appear so.

i remember as a small kid not making friends because ultimately they were going to die.

i never saved anything because money would be useless in the new world.

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I remember @Sour Grapes' post from a couple of months ago about "world conditions" never being as bad as they are today. @Giordano brought up an interesting quote from Eric Hoffer's book, The True Believer:

"Not only does a mass movement depict the present as mean and miserable - it deliberately makes it so. It fashions a pattern of individual existence that is dour, hard, repressive and dull. It decries pleasures and comforts and extols the rigorous life. It views ordinary enjoyment as trivial or even discreditable, and represents the pursuit of personal happiness as immoral."

I think Watchtower deliberately imposes such uncertainty and instability on its members' lives. You wonder how people continue to put up with it, @silentbuddha, and it's because any other route is conceivably impossible for the Witness. Watchtower keeps its members by baiting them with the offer of certainty of "God's promise". The offer of complete security if you do everything right within the organization... The offer of an impermeable faith that can't give way, should you ignore anything that does get in its way. And in the midst of Watchtower's induced uncertainty on the member's life, this seems like an offer worth holding onto.

I sometimes think of Watchtower's "imminent destruction" theology as a marketing scheme in the same vein as, "hurry now! Offer ends soon." False urgency is created in people and those studying with Jehovah's Witnesses. "Gosh, if I disagree with what I'm being taught, I might miss out on the deal of a lifetime. Better block out the negative aspects and commit to purchase before I miss out!"

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Welcoming Our Latest JW Apologist JTrottigy

by pale.emperor in

i'd like to take this opportunity to warmly welcome our newest jw apologist jtrottigy.

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he'll likely only be here for a few days like most jw defenders before he runs away when presented with his own doctrine.. so far he's already said some hilarious stuff, like "there's no such thing as nepotism in jehovah's organisation", "confidentiality is paramount to elders" and, my personal favourite "the overlapping generation is so simple to understand".. yh don't think i don't remember you from jwtalk..

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@Carla: "I really don't get why someone need to be 'approved' to stand around a cart and have people walk by and ignore you." That's a perfectly valid point you've raised from a non-indoctrinated perspective.

@john.prestor Your theory on their vulnerability to apostates is a good one. I've also thought about this and believe some of it has to do with Watchtower's degrading technique of classing otherwise menial things as "privileges". Check out this post to see what I mean: https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5934430200791040/unprivileged